1. This section is for official content brought to you by BeamNG. Please keep the discussion civil and posts constructive to avoid spam. Posts disregarding these guidelines may be removed without any notice.
    Dismiss Notice

1953 Burnside Special

Discussion in 'Official Content' started by gabester, Jul 5, 2014.

  1. SixSixSevenSeven

    SixSixSevenSeven
    Expand Collapse

    Joined:
    Sep 13, 2013
    Messages:
    6,958
    So the above didnt answer?

    Cars are almost exclusively sheet steel.

    Rarely in more modern vehicles you begin to get aluminium, magnesium (already fallen out of favour due to safety concerns, now mostly limited to wheels) and some alloys but all of these are more recent than 1953.

    The burnside will be steel, or maybe, just maybe, steel. It will be in stamped sheet form with the exception of a few driveline components which will indeed be machined from castings.

    Casting is the process of melting metal and pouring it into a mould. Unsuitable for making body panels and usually too heavy for the frames and suspension components. Instead you take a thin sheet of metal and you stamp it into shape. The castings also have a rough finish to them, car owners dont want that. Castings are usually machined with various tools in order to be usable, to do that for a body panel would just cost too much and for such a thin piece would be liable to break during machining anyway. The engine, gearbox casing and differential casing are much heavier duty parts which require the extra material so the cost of casting the components and then machining them to their final shape makes more sense.
     
  2. Nate2826

    Nate2826
    Expand Collapse

    Joined:
    Aug 4, 2013
    Messages:
    72
  3. HadACoolName

    HadACoolName
    Expand Collapse

    Joined:
    Aug 3, 2013
    Messages:
    1,931
    No official vehicles have an ETA, they happen when they happen.
     
  4. CaffeinatedPixels

    CaffeinatedPixels
    Expand Collapse

    Joined:
    Oct 2, 2012
    Messages:
    184
    This is probably wrong, but I heard either this or the LeGran (plus the German wagon) is the next one on the list after the SBR4.
     
  5. tjm2000

    tjm2000
    Expand Collapse

    Joined:
    Jan 24, 2015
    Messages:
    39
    This one's my favorite cause it looks like a Hudson Hornet which is basically what started NASCAR
     
  6. Andybravec

    Andybravec
    Expand Collapse

    Joined:
    Feb 24, 2014
    Messages:
    174
    Hows the progress? I really have an urge to drive this car on east coast map
     
  7. rowanwalker36

    rowanwalker36
    Expand Collapse

    Joined:
    Sep 9, 2015
    Messages:
    55
    Unfortunately for you, we don't have a proper answer to that question, since the devs rather keep car design progress top secret.
     
  8. Nadeox1

    Nadeox1
    Expand Collapse
    Spinning Cube
    BeamNG Team

    Joined:
    Aug 5, 2012
    Messages:
    14,697
  9. Chompy185

    Chompy185
    Expand Collapse

    Joined:
    Jun 15, 2015
    Messages:
    19
    Will there be a gasser version
     
  10. titleguy1

    titleguy1
    Expand Collapse

    Joined:
    Jun 18, 2015
    Messages:
    263
    Can't wait for this. It looks like it'll be great! Can't wait.
     
  11. rowanwalker36

    rowanwalker36
    Expand Collapse

    Joined:
    Sep 9, 2015
    Messages:
    55
    I hope it has realistic 1950s-like crash deformation, considering this was the era before safety features like crumple zones, seatbelts, airbags, ABS, TC, ESC, and a whole shitload of other modern safety features.

    For a reference, take this picture:
    1959_Chevrolet_Bel_Air_IIHS.jpg
    Note the serious deformation of the occupant compartment, which left very little "survival space" for the driver, as seen in this picture:
    crash-test-video-2009-malibu-vs-1959-bel-air_5.jpg
    Will look forward to seeing this car ingame soon.
     
  12. MercedesEclass

    MercedesEclass
    Expand Collapse

    Joined:
    Feb 22, 2015
    Messages:
    134
    Isn't that the Impala Chevy used in the crash test video showing an old impala hitting a new one? If it is it wasn't very accurate if I recall. I believe they removed the engine from the car, or it was made for the clip and it was built out of less dense metal or something. Cars from the 50s were very large and made with thick steel, so I can't see them crumpling that easily. When you look at car accident photos from the 50s most of the cars didn't damage like that either.
     
    • Like Like x 1
  13. Occam's Razer

    Occam's Razer
    Expand Collapse

    Joined:
    Aug 7, 2013
    Messages:
    1,256
    Alongside the test's scrutiny as was said above, this year of Impala was also infamous for its x-frame design, which was known to cause excessive crumpling and the extreme likelyhood of driver injury, by 1959's standards. Old cars aren't safe, and I expect the Burnside to live up to this, but rating every pre-1975 car for safety as based on the '59 Impala is like rating the entire Die Hard series based on #'s 2 and 5. And maybe 4. Depends on who you ask.

    Actually, there was quite a talk about this in Myth's '49 Caddy thread:1949-Cadillac-Series-62-Convertible/page12
    Just take care not to reply to it, that'd be quite a bump.
     
    • Like Like x 1
  14. Peterbilt

    Peterbilt
    Expand Collapse

    Joined:
    Aug 6, 2012
    Messages:
    241
    About 2 years ago there an accident down the road from my house between a 56 Dodge Lancer and a later model Camry.
    The Camry pulled out onto a blind corner and the Dodge broadsided it at 60.

    The Dodge carried the Toyota about 400 ft down the road until it came to a gaurdrail, when it pushed the Toyota up and over it.

    The guy in the Camry was ok, for the most part, I don't remember exactly, I do remember though that his car was basically still car shaped.

    The Dodge was fine from the windshield back, the whole front end bent upwards, though I think the driver was pretty beat up.


    Basically it comes down to what an old auto shop teacher mine said once, "with the old cars, they didn't give, you did."
    That being said I though he was a bit of a kook, but he did seem to know what he was talking about.
     
  15. CTJacob

    CTJacob
    Expand Collapse

    Joined:
    Aug 6, 2012
    Messages:
    447
    1965 Thunderbird vs Crown Victoria. Driver of the T-Bird died (90 year old woman) but the officer in the Crown Vic was critically injured. Nasty looking accident.

    http://www.katu.com/news/local/64062842.html
     
    #175 CTJacob, Sep 25, 2015
    Last edited: Sep 25, 2015
  16. XManic1995

    XManic1995
    Expand Collapse

    Joined:
    Aug 16, 2013
    Messages:
    2,798
    Here video.
     
    #176 XManic1995, Sep 25, 2015
    Last edited by a moderator: Oct 21, 2015
  17. rowanwalker36

    rowanwalker36
    Expand Collapse

    Joined:
    Sep 9, 2015
    Messages:
    55
    Here's the more thorough version of the video, complete with narration by Consumer Reports:
     
    #177 rowanwalker36, Sep 26, 2015
    Last edited by a moderator: Oct 21, 2015
  18. vmlinuz

    vmlinuz
    Expand Collapse

    Joined:
    Mar 2, 2014
    Messages:
    2,409
    Wow, what a waste of a classic car ;-;
     
    • Agree Agree x 1
  19. rowanwalker36

    rowanwalker36
    Expand Collapse

    Joined:
    Sep 9, 2015
    Messages:
    55
    I agree with you vmlinuz, but the IIHS had to do it to show how far car safety has come in last 56 years.
     
  20. Atomix

    Atomix
    Expand Collapse

    Joined:
    Dec 15, 2012
    Messages:
    1,349
    It won't be missed. It was a junkyard wreck, just look at how it ends up as a pile of ash after the crash. The frame was for sure cracked and many of the inner panels were greatly weakened by the rust. That crash test is just for show, don't take anything from it.
     
  1. This site uses cookies to help personalise content, tailor your experience and to keep you logged in if you register.
    By continuing to use this site, you are consenting to our use of cookies.
    Dismiss Notice