yeah..I checked once more, yes you were right, many gavrils are there. Its my personal opinion, that the V12 engine which the Civetta Scintilla has sounds perfect than any mod V12 engine. If this engine sound is there for other V12s, better. Also Some cars lack the "Smooth Light Transition" treatment, like Ibishu Hopper, Ibishu Pessima '96 version, Autobello Piccolina, Gavril H-Series. Also Gavril H-Series really needs an update, I love this Van a lot, Update in the sense, a PBR update.