Update Speculation thread

Another good example is the Hammerhead Eagle iThrust!

 

IMO seems like a lot of work, To then just go, OK lets remake the entire thing, I think this is like the ETK a refresh, More then a remaster or remake. BUT still those new grills. Coupe. and MOST of all .the needed rusty skin,

 

or an piccolina or nine like this:

it could be funny with beamng physic
hello if you see me you can say you can see me
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there a lot of definitinon for "refresh" but for the burnside (and miramar for left hand drive teaser) if they make more than new texture or upgrade to actual standards its a "remake"

 

The point is not technology. its design, its user engagement. Imagine if you went to take a coach and a Mercedes O403 stops on the platform, while the operator right next to it uses a Mercedes Tourismo. As the user, you see a new looking bus to your side, but you have to board an old looking one. Passenger perception is important too. I'm pretty sure one reason why public transport fails on the US is that everything that's offered is or looks old, making the users feel like they don't deserve nice things.

I'm not against using the simple, but I hate the how much people use the Pushrod V8 as an example when it is constantly updated. The LS3 is basically a completely different engine from the SBC, even though both are Pushrod V8s. Mercedes didn't need to update the O403, since it does the job as well as the Tourismo, but they did it, because progress needs to happen.

To end this discussion. keeping things simple is one thing, keeping your industry stagnated on the principle that "This is good enough" is not. The heavy machinery industry on the US is decades behind the European. You look at a Brand new US Semi (disconsiderind the overall shape) and it looks like a 1990's EU semi. Scania updates their things while keeping the Pushrod L6 and V8 (Although the L6 Super now is DOHC) engines up to date. Marcopolo updates its Paradiso line of buses every 10 years or so, with some refreshes between changes, even though their bus from the 1990 is more than capable to do the job the new ones do. If we kept the though of "This is Fine, we don't need something better", we would be today, just like the USSR car indutry was in the 90's, selling 1960's technology because it just worked, instead of, well, improving things

 

Checking this thread after couple of days:

 

Not really. Do you know how much all of this costs? Take Boston for example, they have 1,037 buses. If you wanted to replace all of them at once, that would cost millions, maybe even billions of dollars. Also, what's this about our transport looking old? Does this look old to you?

This I agree with, we are behind Europe, but we are still making progress nonetheless. Our industry is not stagnated.

This looks like a 90s EU semi? Since when?

 

We are not getting a Wentward remaster. Literally nothing points to that.

 

we still use buses from the early 90s where i live, (granted, we are not that advanced of a country) they did start modernising them recently by putting newer bodies onto the frames
only a few months ago we started getting electric buses

 

*Bus Autism

 

This is Update Speculation, someone should just make a bus discussion thread to get this back on topic

 

Yes, some places had units that looked like that in the 2000's

 

There is nothing else to discuss man why not let people chat

 

hopefully tommorow there will be

 

I think there will be a teaser tomorrow.

 

Teaser Tuesday and gta update tomorrow, hell yeah

 

I'm 90% sure there will be a Teaser Tuesday tomorrow, but I wonder if it's for the MD-Series...

 

I hope we can see a good hope tonight.

 

This is also one of the biggest differences to how european school services operate, leading to major design differences. In the US they try to seat as many children as possible while in the EU (or at least all places I've been) the goal is to get as many children as possible in the bus with the doors still closing. So for european school service they want busses with few seats as they take away a lot of standing room. City busses provide more standing room then US school busses and are designed for crush loads, eg. railings to keep spaces clear or grab irons, so these are prefered for school service. 120+ children in a bus is not rare.

 

So soon wow