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Apple vs Android (start a war)

Discussion in 'Computer Hardware' started by lolwhat, Feb 23, 2025.

  1. lolwhat

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    I believe Android is really good because of how simple to use it is and how much variety between phones there are for Android but with iPhones it's the same phone every year
     
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    I say Apple cause it’s the only phone I ever owned :/
     
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  3. Jefferson KANG

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    APPLE. THATS NEVER CHANGE!!!!
     
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  4. pigeonperson

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    I think Android is better as so many phones share compatibility, and there everything is very functional. I don't mind Apple OS that much, but Apple as a company has been proven to be quite greedy and there's proof of them using unethical techniques to make more money off their customers.
     
  5. default0.0player

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    Also Google, thread, thread and thread. This is right from the playbook. Law #31: Control the Options: Get Others to Play with the Cards You Deal
     
  6. pigeonperson

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    My Pixel 6A is actually pretty nice, so I hope that wasn't intentional, and they don't do something like that to my phone... From what I've heard, Apple tends to do this after 1~2 years, whereas this was five years... but if true, it's still not a good look.

    Thanks for the info, I just spent a couple of minutes reading up on it. People are quite divided on what the purpose/cause of this issue is. Some people believe it is a blatant effort to destroy these phones, with the intention of forcing the owner to purchase a new phone, which Google hopes will be another Pixel. Some believe it has to do with the fact that this phone had unlimited storage backup for photos and videos, and some believe there was something genuinely wrong with the batteries, and that the phones could effectively do a Samsung Note and explode. As you can probably guess, I really want to go with the last option, because I really like the phones and want to continue liking the phones.
     
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    I don't know much about the battery quality(there isn't much incident reports or news about Pixel 4a battery explosion compared to the notorious Galaxy Note 7) but I definitely know that Google phone has bad battery management.
    Lithium-ion battery charging goes constant current(CC) constant voltage(CV). Charge the battery with rated current, until the charge limited voltage is reached, then continue charging at that voltage with reducing current.
    I have a Pixel 6 Pro, and compared to a phone that I bought earlier(on 2017) and another one I bought later(on 2024), the Pixel 6 Pro has the worst charging algorithm. The 2017 phone charges slowest and the 2024 phone charges the fastest, with the Pixel 6 Pro in between. However, both the former and the latter phone, constant current charging is used until the battery is very close to the max voltage, then the current is reduced to maintain that voltage. This charges the phone safely fast. In the Pixel 6 Pro, charging current is gradually reduced well before reaching the voltage limit, the CC-CV transition is very sluggish compared to my two other phones, this reduce charging rate with no benefit. I guess the charge controller has relatively poor precision or the circuit resistance is high. To make matters worse, the temperature range is also much narrower. The Pixel 6 Pro reduces charging current significantly when at 19°C or lower, while other phones that I have do the same at 12°C to 15°C.

    On one hand, Google does noticeably worse in terms of functionality compared to other non-Google Android phone, Google Pixel phones can't even monitor device name or block devices when using mobile hotspot, or block data on a per-app basis. On the other hand, one of the very few advantage of a Pixel is easily unlockable bootloader, which opens a gateway of customization. For non-tinkering everyday use, I would use a non-Pixel Android phone (I download most of the software from F-Droid)
     
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  8. pigeonperson

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    I honestly don't know much about phones, and know even less about phone batteries. I don't really notice many of the cons to do with owning my pixel, partially to do with the fact that my previous phone will turn ten years old next year, didn't have a working camera, and was overall extremely slow. It would have actually kept on running if I had taken better care of it, but I wanted and excuse to spend a bit of money on something much better, so I didn't care for that phone much.

    Some of my biggest gripes with my Pixel are:
    -No little plug for wired headphones
    -Need to pay if you want to have a decent amount of storage
    -Phone overheats easily while taking videos in summer
     
  9. figs074

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    Phone wars on the big '25?
     
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  10. Ev0 g@ming

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    iPhones are... usable (for me). I use a Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ and even though its a 2019 phone, the Snapdragon 855 stil holds its ground and having 12gb RAM is very good at multitasking and overall response time. But i am getting macbook pro so maybe iphone...
     
  11. lolwhat

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    I'm honestly curious if any apple users have left because of the iPhone 16e
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    Samsung phones like the galaxy s series hold up very well. I know a friend that still actively uses an S7.
     
  12. Jefferson KANG

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    I LOVE APPLE!!! THATS NEVER CHANGED 16E IS AN MATERPICE(?)
     
  13. lolwhat

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    The iPhone 16e is just a new iPhone 8 just without the home button and has the notch
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    Are there any people that have only ever used one of them?
     
  14. lolwhat

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    apple devices are also very hard to repair. you have to melt a bit of one to put on a new screen.
    android is easier
     
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  15. mrechidna

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    and the price tag? I sh** you not 1 grand. with that money you could either get the 16e or a budget gaming pc.
     
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  16. pigeonperson

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    The ads in Australia say it's 'at a price you can't ignore' even though it's $1000 dollars. Put that with that fact that they will slow down you phone after about a year, and I wonder how they even still sell anything.
     
  17. Jefferson KANG

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    ApPlE iS JuSt gOaT bUY ThEm rIgHt KnOw ApPle Is bEsT

     
  18. pigeonperson

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    They're really not
     
  19. Jefferson KANG

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    I know just joking but I love apple xd
     
  20. mrechidna

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    well time to start a verbal war.
     
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