Why Leaking Paid Mods Is Idiotic.

Better yet, how did the kids get the game in the first place?

 

Well you could say the same thing for adults. The age is irrelevant. They don't wanna work = they don't get paid mods. When I was 7 years old I lost my finger working in a coal refinery. Granted, they re-attached it, but the point is you're never too young to start working. I learned the value of money pretty quickly because of that. And if you or your kid or what have you doesn't wanna work, then they don't get what they want. It's how life works.

Also, let's remember, the biggest concern with paid mods isn't whether or not the people who want them are children. Besides, "children" is such a vague term anyway. How old is this child in this scenario? 3 years old? 10 years old? 16? Because you kinda reach a point where it's like there's no excuse for you not to have $4 to spend on a mod. And also, this game isn't necessarily made for kids, either, and nor are the vast majority of mods for this game, so why would this hypothetical vaguely aged child want a mod for this game? I don't know man. Your defense is so poorly structured and your whataboutism is just confusing me.
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See that's exactly the question I'd ask. I'd also ask how old the kid is. But I will say, a lot of people (kids, I'm talking about kids) pirate this game, and then come to the forums to scream about a mod not working, or something going wrong with their game. So it wouldn't necessarily surprise me to find out that there's a high population of 12 year olds who don't have money to spend (despite never working for it in the first place) playing a pirated version of BeamNG complaining about the fact some mods are paid.

 

Yeah but modders arent supposed to be selling mods in the first place as it goes against the beamng guidelines. Secondly even if it didnt go against the guidelines, they still arent supposed to be selling mods from real car brands as it is technically illegally selling them as they never got permission or liscense to advertise or sell their stuff. Which also technically goes against not just beamng, but the car companies.

 

The way i see it. If someone wants to make it free awesome.
BUT if someone feels they want to charge for there work. Then awseome to.

Its not easy to make mods, I cant even make a 3D object. IF i could i would make my mods free.

BUT i 100% see both sides to the coin. Haven't said that, I dont make much money so i have to be carefull what i spend. BUT am happy to pay for a mod that has lots of passion in it.


However I DO tend to not download mods. Due to if i love a mod. Game updates often bye bye mod/s
And i think beamng cars ( that come with the game ) are great.

I do have lots of mods i admit. BUT i get sad when they brake/die/outdated. Its up to the creator of the mod to fix it IF and ONLY if they wish to do so.

 

So your argument is that kids should learn that if they want something that has value but can't afford it, they should get it for free?

Feels like a bad lesson. Ultimately, if someone charges for something they made, that's up to them. Nobody is forcing anyone to pay, no one is forcing anyone to have it. I want a nicer car, but I can't just take one. I want someone else to do my taxes, but I can't just get someone to do it for free.
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I mean, I'm all for kids learning lessons, but I think child labour might be a touch too far...

 

See, this is why you don’t bump threads like this…

 

How else do you expect kids to get money? It's not like they can set up a stock brokerage account and build an investment portfolio. Their options are: a job, chores, mowing the neighbor's lawns, lemonade stands, or birthdays and christmas. You can't exactly say children should work for their money and then immediately follow it up with "well actually child labor is a bit too far" how else are they gonna get the money dude? "What are you on about" as your people would say?
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Seriously. I think there needs to be some sort of safeguard in place that prevents brand new accounts from bumping obviously very contentious topics of discussion.
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They leave the cars in the dealerships unlocked usually.

 

It's spelled labour here actually... I'm from England (you know, the place that invented your language...).

But also, there is a big difference between jobs/chores/etc that you list, and working in a coal refinery (where you get your finger chopped off apparently). That's not just my view, that's normal child labour laws that are in place in most developed countries.

But also, I wasn't suggesting they did. I was suggesting they don't get the paid mods. Tough old life out there, and if not getting access to a new car on BeamNG is their biggest concern, I'll not be too sad for them, because they're clearly already winning.

It comes back to the same old thing at the end of the day: if people want to charge for the mods they made, that's up to them (the Devs are fine with it). If they don't, great.

 

I see your point, but in general it is worse for the modder if everyone starts getting their paid mod for free (once it's leaked it's over) than it is for the kid that doesn't get the mod. Also, I see you are new here. Welcome! Try not to bump old threads like this unless it is a pinned or official thread. With a situation like this you can just start a new one.
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Multiple devs have said that it's okay. I'm actually not sure about the legality of paid liscenced content.

 

First thing, life isn't always fair, people need to learn that.

Secondly, how is it fair for someone to take their free time & drive themselves crazy making a mod for this game, ask only for a little in return, only to have people say their time isn't worth it so they'll just go get it for free?

 

This thread's been going on for over a year, let's just put this debate to rest for the love of god.

 

I'm with him on this one

 

Nah, let's keep it here so that people with strong opinions on paid content complain here instead of spreading to every paid mod thread, again.

 

Actually fair point. Didn’t think of that

 

I don't know why I really get involved. I don't really care. I don't buy paid mods and I don't charge for my mods. But I also don't mind if others do (either). I think what bugs me is when you see the abuse to people about it. It's a game. Who really cares...?

 

Correct but considering that a lot of these mods people are selling is technically a copyright. So you're pretty much stating exactly what Im getting at with copyright and permission. For instance Although highly unlikely, (using a random car brand) Ford saw their ford expedition vehicle mod in game that some random modder is selling, they can easily sue them because its their brand and a modder is profitting off of their brand without their permission. If we took something like gravil scout, while it may (or may not) be based on a real car it isnt a real car brand and holds it own type.

 

The Gavril Scout complies with every copyright/trademark law, to my knowledge. However other paid mods like ones using actual brand names do not comply with those laws. But, it's only going to become an issue when one of those manufacturers finds out and decides to sue BeamNG for platforming that type of behavior.

 

Why pay for a mod that may break...
You pay for food, and it ends up in the toilet after a few days, but the food was good when you ate it?
lol

 

This is a very dangerous mindset, if people think like this, corporations are going add malicious code to make digital contents that self-destruct over time, forcing the user to pay for the same thing again and again. Imagine buying a book, only notice that the ink disappears over time....quite dystopian tbh