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ETK 800 Series

Discussion in 'Official Content' started by gabester, Jun 4, 2016.

  1. paulnewman

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    One last thing I just remembered…
    I know that the proportions of the roof have been slightly altered during the “refresh” process. Too bad it didn’t also concern a-pillars. They are very wide obstructing quite a bit of view, which is especially noticeable in tight corners or while drifting.
    Kind of strange considering k-series is fairly reasonable in that regard.
     
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  2. McBeamer94

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    There's a couple of suggestions I want to make for any future update and they're about the appearance of the intakes (turbo or not) of the modern ETK Inline engines.

    1) This is mainly about the non-ttSport intakes, either NA or turbocharged: between the longitudinal silver ETK slats and the large black ETK script on the air box, there are 7 black transverse slats (circled in red, although I feel like they are easier to see in the second picture). These slats are the same number on all modern ETK Inline engines, whether they be I4s or I6s, and they don't help in identifying which engine we see when we open the hood. I suggest that they get reduced to the numbers of cylinders they actually represent, meaning 4 for the 2.0 I4 gas/diesel engines and 6 for the 3.0 I6 ones.
    2) This is about the ttSport turbocharger of the 3.0 gas I6: I feel this turbocharger could be differentiated from the normal one and the NA intake in terms of graphical presentation. As we can see from the Knallhart 800, shown in the second picture, the appearance of the ttSport turbocharger is exactly the same as all the other intakes and it doesn't stand out at all. I think this is unfair since it gives the I6 engine quite a large power bump, even with the least powerful ttSport ECU, which is the "440". It could have some different graphics, with the ttSport badge prominently mounted on it, so that the engine bay's appearance gets upgraded too and we see the true beauty of this turbocharger and the I6 engine as a whole in the ttSport variants of the modern ETKs. :)
    3) The ttSport badge could also be mounted on the 4.4 ttSport V8, on both NA and Twin-Turbo ttSport intakes, since this engine is an exclusive ttSport creation, so it would be great seeing what we're dealing with in greater detail. ;)
     

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  3. silvermanblu

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    Will a template uv for the sedan be released? because the wagon UV and the Sedan UV appear to be different
     
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  4. paulnewman

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    Two more observations I’ve made:

    There is no way of telling which mode you’re in simply by looking at car’s instruments. Neither on the gauge cluster nor central screen.
    Not the quite the attention to detail we came to expect from new cars in beamng.

    On tt sport plus variant the default front wheel offset is set 0,07. However there is an obvious reason behind this. If you revert it back to 0, the rim clips through the hub. Unfortunately as it is if the suspension compresses while the steering is at full lock the wheel sometimes clips through the fender.
    Maybe there should be a separate model for the front rim with a different offset? Alternatively front fender could require further widening.
     
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  5. McBeamer94

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    A few more wrong details with the modern ETKs:

    1) The K-Series has no hazard button. Before the remastering, it had it at the right side of the gauge cluster but now it's gone.
    2) The K-Series GT-IV should have a "Race 7-Speed Dual Clutch Transmission", like the SBR4 Hillclimb. The existing 7-Speed Dual Clutch is great but it still isn't very fitting with the rest of the racing equipment (as is the standard fuel tank - seeing the racing fuel filler entrance between the two trunk catches at the back of the GT-IV, I sense that this variant will be getting an in-trunk racing fuel cell sometime in the future).
    3) The racing hood catches on both cars produce the hood sound when you seal them shut, which is a mistake. They make the correct, gun-arming sound when you open them, though.
    4) The Race variant of the 800-Series should have the Sport 6-Speed Manual and not the standard 6-Speed Manual transmission. It also has no Race Manual Shifter, I guess because it's also got no race center console and/or center console delete options.
     
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  6. Jackets64

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    I'm almost certain that this is the way it is because the race 800-Series is a budget setup based upon a factory 844, I hardly believe someone would spend the time and money to swap in a ttSport transmission for that purpose.
     
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  7. McBeamer94

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    Which also explains the small diameter of the wheels (17s) and the fact that it's a 4-cylinder version without even the "250 ECU Stage 1" part (it has the standard 250 ECU, with only the Custom Dual Outlet Exhaust making the difference.
    I'm only talking about the Sport 6-Speed Manual because the 2.0 turbo I4 makes quite a lot of torque (370Nm/272.9lb-ft) and, supposing the game simulated true gearbox usage wear, that is the transmission to handle the torque better. But I guess the 6-cylinder turbo versions (846/856tt-ttx) need this manual transmission the most because they make 470Nm/346.7lb-ft with the ttSport Exhaust and the 360 ECU.
     
  8. paulnewman

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    Hey, I just wanted to say well done with the awd changes. Power transfer feels much smoother now.
    Also I’m not sure whether it’s placebo, I got more used to it or the rear diff also received some tweaks. It feels slightly tighter now. Overall better. I find it easier to slide around.
     
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  9. Jackets64

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    I also noticed it being a bit easier to slide around. It wasn’t particularly in my advantage, but it was definitely easier.
     
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  10. CEO Of Bruckell

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    wear a black jacket in ohio,fool
     
  11. I<3ChickenWings&V8

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    No need to get rude.
     
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  12. SupremeDalek73

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    Simple traffic variants use offroad tyre sounds.
     
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    How did you find this? Did you listen to AI traffic or did you drive the car yourself?
    I just want to know :p
     
  14. SupremeDalek73

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    Both, I kept hearing it when driving with traffic and then did a small amount of testing with said configurations. Also I'd like to correct myself and say that they are the Crawler tyre sounds not the All-terrain sounds.
     
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  15. SSRG

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    I didn’t even know different tires made different sounds :p
     
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  16. McBeamer94

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    After a few months into the refreshed ETKs, here are my thoughts:

    1) I really like the subtle Lexus F cues in the interior, with the sculpted ttSport front seats and the ttSport gauges with the blue needles and the white script. They change the interior vibe and they make the ttSport/ttSport+ models feel very different from the rest of the lineup.
    2) The handling of the cars, ttSport or not, is very sprightly. It's both stable and lively/drifty at the rear at the same time, so you can freely use this to your advantage in a nice backroad spaghetti strip of asphalt. Especially for the AWD variants, the small AWD changes we discussed a few months back in this thread have transformed the platform into a neutral and cohesive driving machine!
    3) The new 4.4 ttSport V8, with the NA parts and the highest-revving ECUs (470 ttSport @8500rpm and 500 Rennspecht @9000rpm), is an absolute riot to drive! I made six RWD and six AWD 846 ttSport+ variants with this exact engine configuration (three of each with the normal ttSport NA parts and three of each with the Rennspecht NA parts), with the Sport 6-Speed Manual (with the Sport Flywheel), the 7-Speed ttSport DCT and the 8-Speed Automatic (with the Heavy-Duty Torque Converter, because torque may only be 452 to 459nm on the 800-Series, depending on the parts, but we're still talking about a lot of power - 475 to 510hp on the 800-Series, to be precise) and I put the shortest final drive ratio available, which is the 3.91, to compensate for the very high revs. I equally enjoy all three transmission configurations, regardless of RWD or AWD, and, with this particular final drive, the engine is extremely lively across the rev band and all the way to the rev limiter. Plus, it's still civilized at low-rpm top-gear cruising (~2100rpm at 100kph with the 8-Speed Automatic and the 7-Speed DCT, ~2600rpm with the Sport 6-Speed Manual).


    As a minor note though, some 848/858 badges would help bringing the full OEM experience. Also, the ETK/Rennspecht badges as standalone options on the trunks/tailgates, without any model script, would do nicely too. And a Race Exhaust on the V8 for the 800 would complete the part offerings.
     
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  17. Exchy

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    Petition to reconsider race config. If the "race" version can barely achieve 6th speed, then how bad is "serial" version supposed to be. And since it's a turbocharged, I guess someone would at least do a stage 1 or 2 to it. For as it is now, the final drive should be around 4.1-4.2 imo, to at least have some use for 6th gear.
    Even easier option add turbos, like ttsport or something
     
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  18. Angry_Bird

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    The devs could have used my ETK Modern Twin Turbo engines and Add-ons twin turbo models since BMWs always have Twin Turbos IRL (especially the S58)
     
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  19. Pr9tkin

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    why is it so bad?
     

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  20. simsimw

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    They didn’t remaster it? They just changed a few textures
     
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