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Discussion in 'Troubleshooting: Bugs, Questions and Support' started by Car_Killer, Jun 22, 2021.

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  1. Sepehr

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    Means that i need to copy game before testing out the Vulkan or it can fix breaked things by deleting cache?
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    #61 Sepehr, Jul 12, 2021
  2. Keemo

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    Usually just clear cache, worst case probably file verification on steam.
     
    #62 Keemo, Jul 12, 2021
  3. stenyak

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    Yep, having to manually choose Vulkan each time is a deliberate decision. We even scrapped an in-game Vulkan option shortly before the release.
    The idea is to avoid people forgetting they had enabled the shiny new (but unsupported, and still too experimental) Vulkan feature, in turn flooding our Support team, in turn making it harder to identify and solve the issues coming from those of you using the normal renderer :)
     
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  4. Agent_Y

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    That's a really good idea, I can imagine how many false reports you would get from that, knowing this community lol
     
    #64 Agent_Y, Jul 12, 2021
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  5. Artistterrymartin

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    I can't believe I was dumb enough a couple weeks ago to almost make a thread for help. My editor window was all grey, where I could somewhat see the world through it. I unintentionally dragged the tool bar to the bottom of the screen stretching it from top to bottom. Not realizing what I did.
    I even reinstalled the game before figuring out what I did wrong LoL.
     
    #65 Artistterrymartin, Jul 12, 2021
  6. Andrew 208

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    When I try to launch either safe mode or normal mode in Vulcan it goes straight to a black screen and I have to End-Task on Beamng to be able to get my desktop back

    My PC is
    Ryzen 3600
    AMD Vega 64 8gb (Latest AMD drivers)
    B450M motherboard

    RDR2 plays fine as it also uses Vulcan, so im assuming its just a bug
     
    #66 Andrew 208, Jul 14, 2021
  7. Car_Killer

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    Could you attach Vulkan Safe mode logs? It might help us a lot :)
     
    #67 Car_Killer, Jul 14, 2021
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    #68 Krt3k, Jul 15, 2021
  9. avz7

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    I'm getting a black screen and a crash after a few seconds with the error 0x0000001.
    So far, I've
    - Started the game in safe mode
    - Updated the graphics and CPU drives
    - Changed the display settings to windowed mode
    - Renamed/removed the user folder
    - Cleaned cache

    However, nothing changes. It always crashes the same way.
    My specs are -
    Intel i5-7300HQ
    NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1050 Ti 4GB (mobile)
    8GB RAM

    Attaching the logs with the Vulkan safe mode run here. Any idea how to fix this? I really want to play with more AI drivers.
     

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    #69 avz7, Jul 17, 2021
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  10. avz7

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    Don't know if this would be helpful but I also noticed that there are a couple of extra errors related to Vulkan if I changed the user folder to an empty directory. Here are the safe mode logs for that.
     

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    #70 avz7, Jul 17, 2021
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  11. bot9ra

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    Also, GPU wait time doesnt work when fps below 60
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    #71 bot9ra, Jul 18, 2021
  12. obl

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    Hi Everyone,

    Just to report that with Vulkan, fire does not appear at all. Is anyone experiencing the same issue?

    Cheers.
     
    #72 obl, Jul 19, 2021
  13. Car_Killer

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    Hello!
    With a new hotfix, we've released stability updates for Vulkan API.
    The new update also contains a fix for borderless mode.
    Feel free to feed us with the results of new tests. As usual, before reporting an issue check the first post.
    Also, we are aware of the worse GPU performance of Vulkan API with this update.
     
    #73 Car_Killer, Jul 19, 2021
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  14. obl

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    Thanks for the constant and frequent updates! Fire is still not showing for me on the latest update (0.23.3) using Vulkan.
     
    #74 obl, Jul 19, 2021
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  15. robert357

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    I loaded ETK map and I get ~60 FPS on Vulkan with some hiccups. Nice improvements. I didn't even found any graphic glitches. Only particles were missing (water splashes, smoke, dust, fire etc). However when I loaded this map second time in safe mode with Vulcan... I get ~12 FPS. I again loaded game in just Vulcan (without safe mode) and again - 60FPS. Still less than on DirectX but more stable.

    On WCUSA performance is worse than before. I have barely 2FPS. On second loading however graphic glitches didn't occurred.
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    I manage so far load WCUSA only in Vulcan without safe mode. Every other time game will froze on loading screen (sometimes in the middle, sometimes at the end). I waited several minutes and it didn't finish the loading.

    Finally I loaded Gridmap. Like on WCUSA there were graphical glitches on the first loading. They go away when I loaded map second time. Unlike like WCUSA I have 80-100FPS here but still less than on DirectX (max to 150FPS) but on Vulcan FPS is more stable.
     
    #75 robert357, Jul 19, 2021
  16. avz7

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    I tested out the 0.23.3 update on my system (Win 10/1050 Ti Mobile/i5-7300HQ/8 GB RAM). It's still crashing with a black window after a few seconds like before.
    After cleaning the cache, the first launch always crashes with STATUS_ACCESS_VIOLATION.
    All subsequent launches always crash with 0x00000001.
    (This behavior happened before the update too)
    I've attached the logs for both here. The Vulkan errors that were there in the logs before the update are missing now but the crash still happens the same way.
     

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    #76 avz7, Jul 19, 2021
  17. Car_Killer

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    I've forwarded your logs.

    Low performance on VK Safe mode is normal since its collecting much more debug data.

    Unfortunately, I'm unable to reproduce your graphics glitches, it seems to be related to Kepler series of NVIDIA GPUs.

    I'll test it, thanks for the report.
     
    #77 Car_Killer, Jul 19, 2021
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  18. alexelcaza

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    well now it loads levels much faster and fps are as good as dx11 but textures and models dont really load

    vulkan safe mode does start now but its just as broken

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    #78 alexelcaza, Jul 19, 2021
  19. Agent_Y

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    First impressions:
    • FPS stayed the same as normal.
    • Fire is invisible, explosions too. Actually seems like all particles are invisible.
    • Popped a tire and this happened (doesn't happen in normal mode). Every time I do this the car becomes a stretched mess.
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    • When driving vehicles that have triggers, I noticed some FPS drops.
    • Then dropped the Pigeon from a height and this happened:
      asddsasdawd.png
    • And then the game crashed. Crash log didn't even register the crash. So basically, this renderer doesn't like mesh breakage at all.
    • Tried to load West Coast USA, game froze on exiting loading screen and crashed. Again the log says nothing about this. The last thing it metions is exiting loading screen. I can't load WCUSA at all.
    • Trying with traffic on East Coast. FPS is like 3 times lower than normal, but the UI works way faster for some reason.
    • Deleted 1 traffic car, FPS improved a lot but still not to the point where it is with normal renderer. Deleted another and it's back to normal.
    • This happened when I crashed the hero bus:
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    • And unsurprisingly the game crashed shortly after. The logs seem to be frozen at the time when I spawned the bus, nothing after is registered. So there is no point in even attaching them.
    Overall: Everything stretches when you break mesh (and then sometimes game crashes), West Coast won't load, no particles and a bit less FPS, logs don't seem to work properly.
     
    #79 Agent_Y, Jul 19, 2021
  20. Tsutarja495

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    The Vulkan renderer is an extremely promising prospect in terms of squeezing more performance out of this game. That being said...

    The issue I've noticed (video attached): Significantly worse FPS in borderless mode compared to fullscreen. FPS never seems to break 30 in borderless mode, and in my testing (WCUSA with 12 traffic cars), FPS varied between 20 and 30 depending on how many cars were on screen. In contrast, in fullscreen mode, FPS practically doubled, varying between 40 and 60.

    This happens when: Borderless mode is enabled.

    My specs are: Windows 10 build 19042.1110, AMD Ryzen 5 3600 @ 3.6 GHz, Sapphire Pulse RX 5600 XT, driver version 27.20.21002.112
     

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