Audio Feedback Thread

Wait, the team was headed by Stephen Root!?

Anyways, no, it was an actual published paper. Maybe a GDC paper or something? Damned if I can find it now though, I always stumble across it randomly. Maybe it was Simon Goodwin? This isn't the one, but he mentions 3d 7.1 and the importance of surround for D2. D2 also apparently had 6 different HRTF models? Must be talking about the BRS plugin because I'm pretty sure that's not in game.
https://theboar.org/2010/03/interview-simon-goodwin-codemasters/
Oh, I think this is it. It was Simon Goodwin. Bless his heart, his strive for better surround audio makes me happy. So many games just do it wrong or not at all.
https://www.codemasters.com/research/3d_sound_for_3d_games.pdf

That would explain Polyphony's fondness for Hoover engines. I'm not sure how much of Forza is synthesized vs. recorded. I think in that same interview they said they synthesize the sound output when you do engine and exhaust swaps though. They were talking about the new Ford GT, so pretty sure it was Forza 6 since that was the cover car. Again, damned if I can find it.

Honestly I haven't either, I've just seen videos of people comparing F7 and FH4 to prior titles and the general consensus preferring the older ones. I just tried the demo and thought it was pretty decent, the surround seemed pretty good. They might not be as distinguishable and recognizable as past titles though. People seem to think F6 was the last really good one for audio, which is really just 2 titles.
I'll say they've lost they're way. Now they're making a 3rd person action RPG. Just a hair different from the norm.

 

Yeah actually, they are, but like the flutter sound I was think of was like in this video ( Just skip to 0:28 )

Also not to mention, how much you explained made me thinking, "Man! I need to explore with magical game more!! " You have a nice day, man. Keep up the awesome work!!

 

What about the sound that some diesel turbo's make? It sounds more like a "chooooooo" instead of the typical higher pitched sound. Seen somewhere that it happens because of compressor surge (?) when releasing the throttle, but that's about it

 

This is possibly the best reference I could find, as for some reason there isn't many on YouTube...


(1:33)

 

Not quite sure if this is the right place to ask this, but why the exhaust banging about as loud as the engine if I you use the standard view but when you zoom out you can only hear the cracking but no more engine noises? It sounds pretty weird, especially since I believe this happens to traffic vehicles, too.
Tested on the Wendover Rally version.

 

What about sound modes? Could boost the dynamic range of home theaters and probably headphones while keeping tvs similar. Or having a dynamic range option.

 

I would definitely like a dynamic range setting, i usually have my game at like 10% volume anyways to be able to hear the people im in discord chats with, a real setting sounds dangerous though for both ears and speakers haha. Honestly also wouldn't mind an option for other sounds to slightly dampen when there's a loud detonation, not by much just enough for it to feel louder, but i imagine that's pretty subjective

Some thoughts on the after fire on the rally vivace, maybe it's different in rally but most modern rallycross cars in my spectating experience don't really detonate as much as the vivace does, they more gurgle or crackle on deceleration at similar loudness to the engine, and i feel like the rally vivace has the sound similar to crackles but at the loudness of a bang, which sounds odd at a distance imo, especially with several cars like here

EDIT:update on this, i had a second look in the current version, which i definitely should have done before posting, and the pops are not near as loud as it was in this video, its way closer to what i would expect it to sound



keep in mind it's a few years since i was at an event now

now the cars 5 or so years back definitely did have some mad bangs on launch control and throttle lift off, Robin Larson's Audi and Per Eklund's beetle comes to mind, but what I'm missing from those louder ones in beamng is the reverb from the surrounding environment, that would give a really cool sense of loudness

 

Well I certainly can't find it now, but some time ago that indie game Overgrowth added in a feature for dynamic volume... range I guess? I don't remember if certain sounds were given attribute priorities or it was a trigger based on combat.

 

Coming back to this thread I want to suggest to the readers to try the game with headphones. If you can't play the game at a louder volume or are using basic PC/laptop speakers there is a lot of sounds that go unheard, even if you play at a higher volume.
When playing normally or at lower volume you tend to mainly hear the engine, tires, and crash sounds. Plug in some headphones and you'll find so many new sounds and effects that builds up a totally different atmosphere and at least for me, I find myself going at a slower pace using headphones to admire the game much more.

 

Can sounds be tagged with importance? You could have the "player" be the camera viewpoint so it's not tied directly to any vehicle. Then you can have the sound importance tree adjust volume of other sounds based on proximity to the camera "player" position.

Although I'm also feeling these suggestions are just starting to annoy.

 

Siiick! I'm in the middle of building a what i plan on being a 7.2.4 system, currently a Frankenstein 7.1 setup with dayton drivers for centre, car speakers for LR old Samsung speakers for side surround and some tiny Canton rears, all except the sub powered by an marantz sr6012, at least my L R combined with my sub plays pretty flat from 24hz to 20 000hz with some help from EQ. But i do like to eq in a house curve as it's called so sub is at an increasing slope from 80hz or so and down

I definitely notice the deep tones that are around 30hz from the cars and it makes it pretty immersive IMO

 

As long as there are suggestion day today I suggest to improve the default sound of non-critical impacts to body and components. I guess it should more like light and hard scratches and soft punch type sound to vehicle's body damage and hurting (and some variations of its) and more prononced hard rattle sound of hits to the drivetrain and engine.

Right now hits sounds are like the same ones for all types of impacts and not IRL vivid.

 

Would it be possible to make it so that when windows are removed from a vehicle (or when the doors and/or roof are off on the hopper), the sound becomes less muffled? (less muffled based on how much is removed; i.e. removing one window will make sounds near the window less muffled, but removing the entire door would reduce muffling even more)?