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Fewer EVs live longer than 15 years before they are scrapped. Batteries are mostly responsible for that.

Driving manually =/= endanger

There's no such a thing like "cold statistics" because media can manipulate these data to make you believe they want you to believe. Corporate media bombard you with traffic accident news and they stress the human factor to make you believe humans are terrible drivers.
If every driver is responsive, the accident rate will be way lower than full autonomous driving. That's why airlines need pilots even with advanced autopilot that's already working decades ago.

Why live at all if AI computers can do everything better (in the future).

Why punish responsive drivers by outlawing human driving?

Not enough. To ensure maximum "safety" and minimum fatality we should stop moving and connect our brain to a supercomputer to emulate life in the ultimate form of VR, instead of living on our own.

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How about adjustable thermostat radiators. Currently the thermostat always fully opens at 1 degree higher than it's starts to open.

 

Stop this Garbage talking about what ever a HEV MKIV is suposed to function like and start taking about what w o u l d be in the Utah update an the new areas.

 

No

 

Tbh, while it is an interesting topic, I think it should be continued in the automotive section of the forums since the discussion about what is the future of automobiles is at best loosely related to the expected future of this game's content.

On topic: It's great that devs are making more rock crawling sections to Utah (unless there's some spot I've forgotten about). It'll be awesome to explore the place once again when it's released.

 

Yeah id love to jump in on the talk about manual driving, but can we have a different thread and keep this one on topic

 

The whole poinmt of an new cars and specificaly the propaganded jump to an ev is in short to buy new new new again again and again
for the excuse to be enviorment friendly and be more enviorment friendly but inn fact they isnt
the ICE can as well gain that in reality even more than the EV
your excuse of the BIO fuels ( they are to expensive) well they sad the same about solar energy and evs in general years ago.
it is all a question of investment and dont think the oil industry is out of the game and will stuck with foccil fuels in fact this is the bigges change that needs gona to happen anyways because oil is in everything even jn evs and a hell of a lot.
The adavantage of bio fuels is you can even create an negative co2 cycle with some oil tax so the natural recources would be refueled with exactly that we have stolen
the poluting is not the problem not in the slightes the point is to get it in a closed regulated circuit and this envolves far more than only cars...

And if i speak about ICEs then genaraly about the cars until 2010 without that downsizing nonsense wich is easily reversable with the mazda HCCI engines and with better fuel you almoust dont need exhaust cleaning devices for those (also ridiclious) theoretical healt riscs of modern cars i must died twice by standing next to an open camp fiere or an grill and taking cigarets on weekend partys.
buy the way you can drive an regular ice with hydrogene if you make a few smal adjustments if this argument dont drive you


Now let me put this in an other Perspective
without starting further argumenting against evs and the Aoutonomous driving that you are includet
were i need a complete new thread because i have a lot to say against as a learnded electrician and ongoing SPS Programmer
and i'm tired of this discuss.

So more of an personal Perspective
and ---->Highly Theoretical Future Perspective nonsense<-----

no one would die ?

i can easily denie that

I would rather kill myselve
and driving my bmw in free will
with over 200Km/h against some big rigid obsticle in the midle of nowhere
than living in such an hooror Dystophia

and this is no jocke

and i dont need any licence for doing this

+ i wont polute anything with my Breathing
including Farths and Burps out of even more dangerous methane.


this dystopia (EVS and AI driving only) would be the death of my soul and would put me and a lot of Car guys hobbyist or just car lovers in in very deep deprsion
and thise headlines could then drive 24/7 through their brains

everything is useles garbage without soul, without emoution, without stimulation, without exitement, without fun, without sense and nothing to fight for, u are useles should the computere better live vorever on, the live is worthles if you cant live even with a simple hobby or liking ice cars, they stole everything i liked, they destroyed everything i liked ec.ec

so heavy existence anxiety if they can bann this our over a century loved ICE car drived by our own for nothing but statistics Piking if they realy could do that what els can they bann from us?


The only spark for me then would be the 3d printers where i would build my caar by my own chosen desinge of the past and driving it in secret at night if the wort case of the worst case of you said dystopian would happen.

but its more as likely that i wont see this in any way
alsou died my uncle with 42 on pankrias cancer.
maby this is my future ?

Buy the way my Bmw 325ci is 18 jears old and is completly fine i have it since im 18 and it will stick with me until i gett (eventualy) an old man well i wish i was already at my 60s but with 24 i need too continue to overcome this future prayers with their ,,highly theoretical future where everything far worse can hapen´´

For me is fredoom and Lberty all and the most important thing what makes for me a great Future.
and if someone want to bann this
the result would be the said above

So thank you you ruined my week with a real live horror story i well know it but i dont even want tho think of in the same time
for nothing and nothing to gain for were i only want to keep my car and car nostalgia.

i just want a beatiful future with my car an i will have that
The future isnt written and no one can force me to anything and im not the only one.





if someone wants to live after the philosophy efficency and statistics congratulations you are almoust an computer in your own ecxistence nothing to live for than being alive.


Hell i dont want to lock in my account for a while now i realy regrett it
nothing to gain for...
What a waste of time...........

Who gives up freedom for security, will lose both.

And i take the liberty to end this discuss

The devs should feel free to remove this two non contibuting nonsense posts

 

How mutch paper do i even need to write this down? (I have messy handwriting)

 

Having read this post, I've got to say I agree with you just about 100%.
A "home-made" EV conversion would be absolutely brilliant in this game, though I have my doubts about how an automatic transmission would handle an electric motor. Manual "redneck EVs" would be awesome though, especially with older cars. An electric converted Piccolina or Burnside Special would be absolutely dope.
A full "dedicated" EV would be good too, for the same reasons you stated.

An electric converted Wendover would be hilarious, though it's unlikely

 

Alright then i give in to this Ev discussion, Evs are okay but Are quite bland. Electric motors have alot of torque and only have one gear, then why do electric manufactures not give electric cars gears to go even faster?

Also i see the future in Renewable Fuel made from plants n stuff.

 

It's not really practical. You'd be increasing complexity ($$$) for no real gain in efficiency or speed. I do believe some EVs use (or have used) two-speed transmissions, though I'm not sure exactly which ones, and when.

 

They slowly adding gears to EVs. I think new Porsche have now two gears. Also Formula E cars have 3-4 gears.

 

I certainly would like to see more variety in drive trains in game, especially some of the quirky old stuff. Some 1980/1990's EV, rotary/wankels, different ICE engines, different types of fuels, something like the 5 speed auto from John Fitch's Oldsmobile Phantom, etc...

It's a shame to have a physics sim car game and only have only basic types of engines.

 

An official car with a wankel cycle engine would be an incredible addition to this game. Imagine something along the lines of a first gen RX7 in BeamNG

 

An RX-8 would be even better, given how its depreciation has had it put to a variety of interesting uses, including banger racing.

Maybe even replace the rotary with a turbine engine.

 

Mate, do a favour to yourself and call on monday your doctor, you need treatment.
I had petrol cars, since I was 18, my first was a E36 325i coupe, wonderful car, great memories, but honestly, with the current gas prices and driving 20K km per year it would have no sense to have it now as my daily car.
In the future, the racetracks will still exist, and for sure with many more around the world, and humans will go "crazy" with our "stupid old machines" and have some fun for a few hours on a safe environment and we will go back home safe and clean on our autonomous vehicle. It NOT will be the end of the world. GET OVER IT!

 

Why do you keep trying to change the subject? Just stop, it's annoying.

 

No, I don't think I will.

 

Keep in mind that the statement of autonomous vehicles dominate streets and the obsolete of manual driving, is merely an opinion, NOT a fact. Just like in the 1970's lots of people belived that in 2050 many of us would be able to travel to another planets in a privately owned spaceship.

Electric cars are quite unstable given its weight. The eSBR final gearing ratio is to high that it'll wheelspin like crazy when flooring it at low to moderate speeds. If you change the final gearing that the eSBR just able to spin the wheel very slightly, you get 320+km/h top speed. However the car gets unstable over 250km/h
Formula E cars and other race cars are purpose built speed machines, and after a bunch of calculations and tests and concludes that more gearing is faster so they add more gears.

 

what if jargl had a car like a saab 9-6, but it had an NSU inspired wankel engine?

 

A Delorean/Fiero inspired sports car with the Rotary the Delorean was supposed to get would be interesting too.